Song of Solomon Discussion Board 3 Period 6
Morrison writes:
“Rootedness: The Ancestor
as Foundation," she says, "The autobiographical form is classic in
Black American or Afro-American literature because it provided an instance in
which a writer could be representative, could say 'My single, solitary and
individual life is like the lives of the tribe; it differs in these specific
ways, but is a balanced life because it is both solitary and representative.'
The contemporary autobiography tends to be 'how I got over—look at me—alone—let
me show you how I did it'” (339). This is about journeys through life, and
providing a path for others to follow.
She draws a boundary between traditional white American autobiography
that focuses on individualism and Afro American autobiography and literature,
which center on the individual but are also about the community.
Explain
and characterize Milkman's Journey. Where does it begin and end, or
does it? What type of a journey did he embark upon and to what extent
was he an active participant in his own experience? Please support your discussion with at least three properly embedded quotes (you may not repeat others' quotes,
however you may wish to interpret a quote rather differently). Your
discussion should be informative, reflective, and representative of the
entire novel. Always refer to others' ideas as you agree or disagree . . . there is a reward for those who consider multiple perspectives as they offer their own.
3. Throughout his life, Milkman struggles to find who he is. To him, his life has no meaning and he does not know what it will bring. Even at a young age, Milkman states that, “it was becoming a habit—this concentration on things behind him. Almost as though there were no future to be had.” (Pg. 35) Milkman is too caught up on the past and does not believe that future will be good. The quote also shows that Milkman inherited Macon’s spiritual deadness and his attitude towards the world. However, his obsession with the past is what helps him find his true self. Despite this, he struggles for many years and goes through many events that change his view of himself. One event that greatly impacted Milkman’s search for identity was his journey to find the “gold.” Milkman uses the gold as an excuse to find himself and leave his family. Milkman even tells Guitar, “I just know that I want to live my own life,” because “everybody wants something from [him]…” (Pg. 221-222) This conversation shows how desperate Milkman is to find himself unlike Guitar, who already knows who he is and what his purpose is. However instead of finding the gold in the cave, Milkman finds something worth much more than gold. He finds his family history. Milkman’s journey most ends when Guitar tries to kill him. After the attempt to murder him, Milkman is seen as livelier and happier and finds “himself exhilarated by simply walking the earth. Waking it like he belonged on it…. And he did not limp.” (Pg. 281) Milkman lets go of himself and is spiritually and physically reborn after the assassination attempt. He has found what he was looking for and it has changed him into a new person. He finally feels at home and at peace with his community that he had hated so much.
ReplyDeleteHe hated them? The community who was "loving" when he was drunk, even as they threw him out of parties for peeing in the sink or while they robbed him as he slept at bus stops? Did he hate them or his family for not being more like them? Or does he even care? Could it be that he is so completely wrapped up in the relative objective materialism in which he defines himself that MM's journey is nothing more than good fortune? Or is Morrison telling us something else about the nature of fortune?
DeleteWithout even knowing it, Milkman finds himself embarking on a journey to find his identity and purpose in life. Since young, Milkman has never truly felt as though he belonged in the Dead family. He went through life aimlessly and, despite not wanting to, he followed in his father’s footsteps and assumed the job of “real estate; thinking about rents and property.” However, when Milkman was “over thirty years old,” he had a realization when he felt that “he wanted to feel the heavy white door on Not Doctor Street close behind him and know that he might be hearing the catch settle into its groove for the last time.” Milkman just wanted to be on [his] own… get a job on [his own], live on [his] own;” he wanted to lead a life of his own and be independent from his family. His journey started when he decided to go look for the gold that was Pilate’s green sack in order to be able to leave his current life. Though his journey began with the intention of finding the gold, it eventually turned into a journey to find his family history, furthermore, his own identity. Just as Sandra mentioned, Milkman had “use[d] the gold as an excuse to find himself and leave his family.” Instead of gold being the main goal, his identity was the thing Milkman ultimately yearned for. I believe that Milkman begins to fly when he pieces the puzzle of his family history when he hears the children singing the song of Solomon. Milkman “was as excited as a child confronted with boxes and boxes of presents under the skirt of a Christmas tree. Somewhere in the pile was a gift for him.” This gift was the revealing of his ancestry. Ultimately, Milkman truly flies when he let go of everything and surrendered his life. Milkman, “without wiping away the tears, taking a deep breath, or even bending his knees” leaped. With this new view and acceptance of his family, Milkman gained an important understanding in which “if you surrendered to the air, you could ride it.”
ReplyDeleteMilkman was born three times in his lifetime, the first being his actual birth at conception. But that merely started the path and enabled the other two rebirths to be in effect. The second rebirth occurred when milkman was named milkman, the start of a new journey one filled with uncertainty, shame, and embarrassments. He came out of the womb again the moment when –“Freddie discovers Ruth breast-feeding Milkman” in chapter 1 page 18 and he was instantly scared by the name milkman and all the criticism that came with it. Marked by his mother’s refusal to detached herself from her bosom caused his lifelong ridicule passed the point of awareness and on to the point of ignorance, there was a point where everyone had known why he was nicknamed milkman and intentionally made fun of him but as time progressed they lost track of why they call him milkman or them just never knew in the first place. The third time he was brought into the world was when he decided to surrender himself to the world and stop clinging to having or trying to have control over everyone and everything. For instance in chapter 15 page 337 it states “you want me? Huh? You want my life?” he is surrendering his life his control over the subject and letting life take him where it may, if he fly’s’ that day or stays grounded.
ReplyDeleteMilkman went on an excursion to find literal “gold”, but ended up finding treasure some would say is more valuable than gold, inner peace. He found solace in knowing where he came from and how he was made up. On his journey for the future, he learned about the past that affects him in the present, which has been proven to benefit him now and potentially in the future. Chapter 15 page 331 “milkman opened his arms wide so he could hold all of her warm embraces” here it is evident that his soul has been cleansed in the rebirthing process, and he now has a new outlook on life. A new outlook that he had very little to do with, it was mainly Circe who enabled his new coming. He just sat back and let the process take a hold of him, and change him.
I agree with Howard; Milkman was definitely reborn several times on his journey to find his identity but I believe Howard missed 2 births in Milkman’s journey. The first takes place before Howard’s 1st birth before Milkman even has an identity at all but its still a birth. On pg.19 it is said that at birth Milkman is “[named] the third Macon Dead”, meaning he’d be seen as a reflection of his father’s hateful, tense, and cold persona described on pages 10-11 & 15. And even though he has a name, in his early childhood Morrison names him by everyone around him as if he has no identity. Ruth “[calls] her son to her”(pg.13). Macon refers to him as “his only son” or “his son”(pg.15). Milkman is simply called “the little boy”(pg.34). The characters don’t use his name, he’s simply Pilate’s nephew, Guitar’s friend, Lena’s brother. In those points, Milkman has no identity at all and appears to be a shadow in the background but he’s still there. As Howard mentions, Milkman is given another identity when Freddie discovers Ruth breastfeeding Milkman and says, “A milkman! That’s what you here…”(pg.15) and proceeds to spread the nickname and its origins throughout the neighborhood and beyond. Here, the name “milkman” gains some significance here because despite being a result of Ruth’s actions, Milkman’s journey is continued as he is given some identity as an individual in the novel. Howard says Milkman is born three times but I think he missed one rebirth between his 2nd & 3rd rebirths. Tiara “believe[s] that Milkman begins to fly when he pieces the puzzle of his family history when he hears the children singing the song of Solomon.” I agree with Tiara and I believed that at that point, Milkman is reborn after chasing gold because he realizes his ancestry giving him a different, more valuable “gold”. I think this is what Howard missed to mention as a rebirth on Milkman’s journey to find his identity. On Milkman’s last rebirth and final part of his journey, Pilate’s death makes him see that “without ever leaving the ground, she could fly.”(pg.336) and he realizes who he is and who he wants to be – his identity. Finally understanding, “If you surrendered to the air, you could ride it.”(pg.337), Milkman leaps to face Guitar as he is reborn for the last time.
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DeleteI also agree with Howard and Denise that Milkman was reborn multiple times throughout the novel. Macon Dead III is raised into a sheltered and privileged life his father influences his behavior to be an egotistical young man just like him. As Macon III grows up he begins to feel lost and embarks on a journey to find himself, ancestry, his past, and "gold" (to "fly") .
ReplyDelete"He didn’t mean it. It happened before he was through. She’d stepped away from him to pick flowers, returned, and at the sound of her footsteps behind him, he’d turned around before he was through. It was becoming a habit—this concentration on things behind him. Almost as though there were no future to be had." This quote from Chapter 2 explains how Milkman's alienation from the people around him and even from himself. Milkman’s “concentration on things behind him” shows that he is different from other children his age. When Milkman turns “at the sound of . . . footsteps behind him,” he shows how his father has passed to his son the mentality of a hunted man with worries and baggage.Milkman’s childhood is effected by events that took place before his birth, this sparks his curiosity into finding about his families past. As Milkman begins to grow older he faces dark memories from his childhood and from his family’s past and he then realizes that he is completely alone in life. His aunt Pilate ironically serves as a pilot in his life guiding him the right way even when his father does the opposite. The beginning of his journey is also the beginning of the end of Milkman’s childhood. As he reaches twenty he begins to develop maturity, but hasn't yet reached his peak. After Macon Jr's dad dies he discovers gold treasure in a cave after killing a white man, and this is where he goes through a change into a hard working boy into someone who is greedy and cold-hearted which is what he tries to pass down to Milkman.
"O Solomon don’t leave me here
Cotton balls to choke me
O Solomon don’t leave me here
Buckra’s arms to yoke me
Solomon done fly, Solomon done gone
Solomon cut across the sky, Solomon gone home."
Milkman hears Shalimar children singing a part of Solomon’s song in Chapter 12 the song immediately begins to connect Milkman to his family’s past and provides him with crucial stories about his grandfather, Jake, and his great-grandparents, Solomon and Ryna. Solomon’s song ends with a description of Solomon’s flight rather than with a description of Ryna’s deprivation. This ending shows the ultimate triumph of liberation, which ultimately is what happens to Milkman. He transforms physically and mentally by the end of the novel, his legs not only become even and he no longer limps but he also escapes Guitar and is finally reborn again and can finally "fly".
Since he was a child, Milkman didn't know who he was. It implies that he making a habit of "concentrating on things behind him. Almost as though there were no future to be had." Milkman doesn't believe he has a future and he becomes tired of just being there and getting everything handed to him. He embarks on the journey to look for "gold" but in reality he wasn't looking for actual gold. He has money why would he need anymore? "There had to be something better to look froward to." He wanted something that meant to him like gold means to the poor. He had started on his journey to find his ancestry and roots since he was a small kind, even though he may not have realized it. He wanted something to define him and he himself realized that when he was traveling. I don't believe Milkman's journey ends even thought the book did. Yes, Milkman did find out where he comes from and his past, but that doesn't mean he has to stop defining himself. He can use what he learned about his family and spread the stories and his knowledge.
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DeleteI can see what Denise and Howard are saying about Milkman's several reincarnations. And I agree with Tiara and Sandra that Milkman doesn't seem to care about much and doesn't have a sense of belonging at first. To me, Milkman's journey was pretty much spelled out when Macon forced Ruth to try to abort him. Macon’s aggression towards Ruth during her pregnancy, “punching [Ruth’s] stomach” and “[making her drink castor oil]” (page 131), just foreshadows the egotistical dominance that Milkman has towards the women in his life. Milkman starts his literal life journey facing adversities from his father and his aunt helping him. I disagree with some of the claims that Milkman doesn’t know who he is. I feel like he does know but just has to find out. He’s lost but not completely on the wrong path. He embarks on a journey that is his own but not controlled by him. He barely had control of his life and he was not the owner of his journey. I feel like his journey ends when he realizes that “[he can play the Solomon game]” and that ‘[it’s his game now]” (page 327). His journey ended there because he understood everything already. So it doesn’t really matter if he lives on at the end of the book, because he has found his purpose and his roots.
ReplyDeleteI definitely agree with Sandra on the idea that Milkman seems to be trapped in the past and believes that nothing good awaits for him in the future, as seen in chapter 2. Milkman is a young child and even though he does not realize it, his feeling of unconformity sets forth a future journey. However, several instances in Milkman’s early years reveal the possibility of a future journey for him. This can be seen in chapter 2 (pg.53-54) when Milkman begins questioning his father about his grandfather’s name, “What was his real name?” and him wanting to know why he couldn’t see Pilate “Why? You still haven’t said why”. Milkman grows to be curious about his history due to him being detached from his roots. I believe Milkman begins his journey the day he realized “his life was pointless and aimless” (pg. 107). Milkman then acknowledges that he has never really acted independently “except for the time he hit his father” (pg.120). He begins to ponder on an “escape” of what he knew. Looking for the “gold” helps him escape his home and what he knew. The gold represents an important finding within himself and of his family and history. Milkman’s journey is continuing and does not end. In chapter 12, as he listens to Solomon song sang by children, he notices a connection with his ancestors. Milkman transforms after these new discoveries which will enable him to further find his true self.
ReplyDeleteMilkman's journey began even before he was born. It began when Pilate prevented Ruth to abort him. As he grew up the women that came to his house would describe him as “deep” and “peculiar” implying that even as a child Milkman was lost in thought trying to find himself. Milkman was given an identity at birth when he was named “...the third Macon Dead.” His name gave him an identity who he knew nothing about and didn't understand the meaning of his name. The journey for “gold” served as a quest for his true identity, a journey he had not realize began since the moment he was conceived. Throughout his life there were several obstacles which prevented him from encountering his own identity. Stating by “Freddie discover[ing] Ruth breast-feeding Milkman” in chapter 1. This was a sort of introduction to society, making him seem dependant and controlled. Milkman being named after his unknown grandfather and expectation to become like his father prevented him from advancing as himself. The fact that the journey for “gold” turned into a quest for identity and family history made Milkman question “what was true and what part of what was true had anything to do with him.” Milkmans journey isn't finished even after he truely has found who he is. He still has to integrate into society as himself and see if other accept this new man.
ReplyDeleteAssuming, of course, that he does in fact take flight and decide to come back. Isn't his flight a connection to a much larger and more significant legacy? One that transcends American History, Slavery,Jim Crow and finds expression in its essential "Africa[n]-ness"?
DeleteMilkman was a very gullible man. He struggles to find himself and is influence by others. Milkman begins his journey by him. ”… closing his eyes and opening them. The street was even more crowded with people, all going in the direction he was coming from. All walking hurriedly and bumping against him. After a while he realized that nobody was walking on the other side of the street.” (chapter 3, pg. 78.) He no longer follows the crowd and starts his journey to find himself. Milkman traveled to Detroit in search of the “gold” that Pilate said she hid there. This place he traveled represents Milkman's continued childishness for believing that it’s actual “gold”. Milkman ends up not finding the gold, but learning about his origins and growing as a person. The Cave in Montour County represents opportunity and greed for Milkman. Greed because the only reason he goes to the cave is because he is only there for the gold. It represents opportunity because, since there was no gold, he could start his life over from there. In Shalimar, Virginia Milkman visiting Shalimar is way of showing himself that he is an adult. He is concerned and interested in his family now more than money Milkman grows into a man, recognizing that everything isn't about money, but about life and family and friends. With the help of Pilate and Guitar, he found who he was as a person and what his purpose is. “without wiping away the tears, taking a deep breath, or even bending his knees- he leaped” (chapter 15, pg. 337). With this new insight and acceptance of heritage, Milkman gained an important understanding in which “if you surrendered to the air, you could ride it.” (chapter 15, pg.337) By accepting to your past you can look forward to your future.
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ReplyDeleteMilkman's journey , you can say basically began when he was born.He was already unwanted by his father [p.131].It's like his whole life was a mystery needed to be solved.Usually people would know where their name came from, but with Milkman it was different. And it wasn't like his parents were willing to spill the beans [ch.2]. He eventually comes to that conclusion if you want something done you have to do it yourself. So he breaks away from everyone to investigate himself [ch.3]. Throughout his journey he is targeted by his ex lover Hagar. He constantly hiding from her [ch.5]. This man goes through the absolute struggle to find out things about himself. He is basically almost murdered by his best friend and ironically saved by a woman he doesn't care about. Milkman started as a stuck up rich kid who knew nothing about himself. In the end he was kind of satisfied with the knowledge he obtained.The moral of the journey is that once you know your past, good or bad, your future could be better.
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ReplyDeleteI agree that Milkman's journey began from the minute he was born .It was like he was meant to live that life no matter what . I also agree with Ta’tiona that Milkman was not really wanted by his father , “this disgust and the uneasiness with which he regarded his son …”(ch.1pg15) . He was very unsatisfied with such nickname that was given to his son . Milkman was in a quest for his inheritance .He wanted to know who he really was . During the journey there is lots of complications in which he had to make certain decisions ..The way he grew up didn't really allow him to make the right decisions .Since Milkman was easily influenced and controlled by others. This was the main obstacle from finding his true identity .Milkman had no real happiness in his life. (ch2.pg47)It was more of a “empty “ and”boring” life until he realizes how all of these experiences helped him become a much better person by knowing that even if you have a really dark past you can have a better future if you put in effort to do so . Milkman transforms into someone totally different and believes that “if you surrendered to the air ,you could ride it “(ch15.pg341).
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ReplyDeleteMilkman’s flight begins before he was even born, I agree on Lesly with that, but I believe his journey begins even before Ruth carried him in the womb. Everything Milkman discovers from his past is no coincidence, not to sound cliche but those things had to come about for Milkman’s existence. Once he is born he wonders about his family, why they do what they do, and act how they act which lead him find out why, listening to that old song “Sugarman fly away. Sugarman done gone…” from birth tell his past. That is what he is raised around, every black folk expresses and explains their past in a song, that is what Milkman is confused about he doesn’t understand them, and even they don’t fully understand each other nor themselves, and even though Milkman the one who is afraid to commit, commits to one thing; his roots. Just look at how he looks at himself in the mirror, “in the low light of the wall lamp, at his reflection. He was, as usual….He had a fine enough face...But it lacked coherence...The decision he made would be extremely important, but they way in which he made the decision would be careless, haphazard, and uninformed.” We can say Milkman is afraid of commitment, here he sizes himself up, and the pieces don’t fit. Milkman does not know what he cares for, or values and from a young age he looks behind him, when he walks the streets he walks in the opposite direction looking back rather than going in the same direction as others, but as for the others everyone sings a song and his understanding to it is foreign but he’s not ignorant about it, he knows it has a meaning, and he knows his song has a meaning. Although he commits to this it is hard for him to do such thing on his own, he’s been brought up a spoiled child. “As the stars made themselves visible, Milkman tried to figure what was true and what part of what was true had anything to do with him.” Here we see Milkman lost at sea, trying to find the way with the stars, and no one can help so he must figure out things on his own which is not something he is used to, but his commitment drives Milkman back to his song and roots where he finally lands. Throughout his entire journey Milkman’s flight begins by his great grandfather, which bring him to this new world, enslaved in this new world, so as Milkman is born he is flying but he doesn’t have the sense of direction, and that is what he looks for his entire life, when he finds it he initially takes flight back to Africa, back to his roots, and is finally able to understand that old song…”Oh Sugarman (Solomon) done fly away Sugarman done gone Sugarman cut across the sky” and this referring to Milkman finally taking flight back home “Sugarman gone home.”
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